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Post by Davey on Oct 29, 2008 5:06:06 GMT -5
Oh, and as for the way I did the narration; maybe it's because I'm used to football, but I always used good ol' Match of the Day style "neutral reporting of exactly what happened without any feeling" reports. Simple, to the point and stops it being too long.
Of course, that may not work for bigger shows, but I've never really written any big shows.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Oct 29, 2008 5:23:16 GMT -5
Right yeah, I totally see what you mean. If a feud is progressing well, house shows are a great way to keep its momentum until the next big step which could be done in a bigger text match or a video show. Ultimately, I think this new setup will help everyone out. Less video simming = less time and frustration for me. It's really no one's fault here but FPR can decide to screw me over when I want a certain winner. (FPW needs a pre-chosen winner option in order to make video e-feds maximally efficient) I mean, the BEST matches can be gotten with the "wrong" winner but that doesn't help me get a show out when I have the other wrestler scheduled to win that match! ;D Less videos means less time spent/wasted - so shows can be done faster which means less backload/less chance for feuds to fizzle. It all kinda works together P.S. Anyone know why the percentages of the choices don't add up to 100%? I'm only seeing 99.8%
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Post by OrochiGeese on Oct 29, 2008 5:45:50 GMT -5
Oh, and as for the way I did the narration; maybe it's because I'm used to football, but I always used good ol' Match of the Day style "neutral reporting of exactly what happened without any feeling" reports. Simple, to the point and stops it being too long. Of course, that may not work for bigger shows, but I've never really written any big shows. Yeah narration voice is another big thing for me. If I do the short house shows, I'm gonna use neutral reporting, I don't need to inject "character" into a narrator of a paragraph or two write-up show. It would just end up getting too bloated and for such a short show, narrator humor isn't necessary But for the longer shows, I'm gonna have to make changes. That goes for the video shows as well. The problem here is that I often improperly inject commentary into the impartial disembodied narrator voice that is meant for the most basic actions ("Geese is walking to the ring") and that often confuses ME when I'm writing the shows. So I'm sure it can confuse others as well. So if I just stick to ONE narrator/reporter for the entire show, it MAY be easier. With Jean Carter no longer being eligible to "host" the Open shows (her presence helped me a bit but for storyline reasons, she can no longer do it), I could find a new host but then I'll have to give that host a larger role. They have to handle all the commentary and story and that means the base action disembodied narration HAS to be limited (something I don't always do thanks to being unable to pass up on commenting about Furis falling down every time he walks to the ring. I suppose I can give such commentary to the host though rather then claiming it as OG the show writer.). But while that is a simple and clear plan, it is also one that might take longer to write as commentary often does. I *think* its worth it cause the "host" provides a "live atmosphere" which I like for Open shows. Maybe I should eliminate the "disembodied narrator voice" for the Open shows altogether (or as much as possible) and let the Host describe just about EVERYTHING that happens (besides live promos from wrestlers as well as maybe fade-ins/fade-outs to the show.) Letting the host relay basic actions ("Geese walks to the ring") as well as putting their own spin on some of the more dramatic situations like post-match attacks. In fact, if I explain the longer brawls through a host, I may be forced to be more concise.- thereby reducing the traditional: "Huge ass paragraphs of drama at the end of Open shows" ;D Another way to go is the "Reporter narrator" - with a reporter talking about the show as if it happened in the past. The problem with a "Reporter narrator" is that mixing actual promos into the show is odd from a stylistic and tense viewpoint. If we have one guy using his own voice to talk about what happened in the show in the past tense, its weird as hell to suddenly have wrestlers talking presently in their own voices. Maybe the thing to do is for me to assign a "reporter narrator" to the Battalion shows and take away the "live feel" from them. There aren't very many live promos there anyway. I think the Open shows benefit more from that live setting based on the dynamic roster. The Reserve roster frequently gets new wrestlers - the Leagues rarely do when they are already in progress so there's no need for new wrestlers to introduce themselves ON the show, I just need to find a new host and limit my "action statements" to pure action. Ok, again, I'm thinking out loud here but I figured you guys would be interested in seeing what's juggling in my mind. In terms of VOICE and STYLE, I think I'm leaning towards this: 1) Giving a very basic and objective fact description for Reserve Roster House shows. 2) Having a live Host handle all commentary and narration for the written and video Open shows. 3) Having the Battalion shows no longer be live but become reported by a narrator in reporter recap style.
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Post by Davey on Oct 29, 2008 6:12:24 GMT -5
You could have Martin on commentary with colour from Park Young-Tae. :B
But seriously, you could do what I do with the Fatman Prowres/PTFW RPs. Have a clear distinction between the commentary(which is the actual talking) and the basic fact description which would not actually be said, like actions and stuff. I personally use italics and used to put them between asterisks, but there's loadsa different ways you could do it.
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Post by Davey on Oct 29, 2008 6:19:59 GMT -5
Now I've just thought how the joke commentary team may sound and I feel as if I'm gonna die of lulz overdose.
Martin: That fuckin' what's 'is face wi' a poofy wimp punch on that other twat! Now the twat's hit 'im wi' a f*g**t chop! POOF PUNCH! f*g**t CHOP! POOF PUNCH! f*g**t CHOP! If this gets any gayah, Dale Winton'll be cheesin' 'is kegs! Park: Aaaaah! He rikes wirry in his bum! BUY PALK'S CHEEPS! THAT BE POUND! YOU WANT SAUSAGE?! It in my pants! Wait I have it for you soon!
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Post by OrochiGeese on Oct 29, 2008 6:24:43 GMT -5
Yeah, the italic narrator is something I've used since GWF really and its pretty functional for e-feds. I've started using beige instead of italics cause my eyes start to hurt after too many italics but really, its the same idea. It always works for RP's but sometimes it can become more complicated for shows. The problem I've had recently for UBL shows is that I tend to start giving my OWN commentary in the basic fact description. Either cause I can't resist a snarky comment or cause I can't always decide whether something should be told by person or as disembodied fact. I think I need to get a new live host for the Open shows and give them the vast majority of the narration of the show. The things they won't cover are: - Dialogue from other people (including live wrestler promos) - Very basic fact narration like fade-ins and fade-outs - Things the narrator can't see or sense in some way - Matches? Obviously they won't need to cover the video matches other then post match reactions and any actions that occur afterward (attacks). But I don't know if the live Host should try to narrate the monthly write-up show matches in their own voice or not. That's a big and confusing question to me. A few months ago, I decided to give LAWL the "2nd person" perspective and that's caused me so many similar problems but since its LAWL and meant to be funny, the problems don't bother me there. The more confusing and chaotic presentation, the better for LAWL! But for UBL, I want to sort this out
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Post by OrochiGeese on Oct 29, 2008 6:28:36 GMT -5
Now I've just thought how the joke commentary team may sound and I feel as if I'm gonna die of lulz overdose. It's funny cause you were writing that just as I was getting to the the part in my previous post about whether or not to use the Host for narrating the matches as well ;D "POOF PUNCH! f*g**t CHOP! POOF PUNCH! f*g**t CHOP! " 5 star match
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Post by OrochiGeese on Nov 7, 2008 18:23:38 GMT -5
With HaLAWLoween done, the Open show is next on my list. Just two vid matches to sim and the write-up (of which part is done) so I'm hoping I can get this show posted within the next two weeks
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Post by athrin on Nov 8, 2008 16:46:16 GMT -5
Can't wait to see it.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Nov 8, 2008 16:58:20 GMT -5
Me too!! ;D It's a long time coming, that's for sure. And once this show is posted, then the new UBL Reserves show structure can start!
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Post by athrin on Nov 9, 2008 15:28:21 GMT -5
Good to hear that your going to implement the new structure so soon. Should make thing's a little easier for you. ;D
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Post by OrochiGeese on Nov 9, 2008 15:37:29 GMT -5
I actually had a very in depth and vivid dream about it last night I woke up thinking that I already posted a show caused I dreamed I did ;D
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Post by athrin on Nov 9, 2008 15:53:05 GMT -5
A show that you dreamed......This I've gotta see.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Nov 9, 2008 16:08:17 GMT -5
I kinda like how it turned out...in my dream. I remember that the dream kinda mixed together things (as dreams tend to do) and I had originally called it the "Rookie Jar" (ala FPCPP) but then changed it to "Dave's Hoose" as if the entire show with new wrestlers was being held in the Fatman Ryuu Dojo. I believe that part of the dream was credited to Dave's real life help with the new UBL plans However, I posted the show...to a notebook rather then the internet. So I'm guessing not too many people saw it I do remember liking the text-only format though as I got the show out quickly even for "dream" time ;D
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Post by athrin on Nov 9, 2008 16:13:46 GMT -5
That's true dreams do tend to mix together a lot. Text -Only show's are easier to do then vid show's...well there easier to do if you have a story line your going by and not just randomly simed matches. Its to bad not many people saw it Sounds interesting i wouldn't mind seeing it.
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